Anonymous 531f7e1872de88c7cc37c21fd226e06a started this discussion 2 months (2008-10-05 12:44:33 UTC) ago:
Because you can't buy a gun in Australia (You can but it is incredibly hard and expensive to do so and takes allot of effort and time)
I built a crossbow, yes I know it sounds funny but I tested it on a big leg of ham and it went straight through, better then nothing. :D
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Anonymous 154b5e017a13187bb71e9aa90c3093e1 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-05 12:53:10 UTC) ago, 9 minutes later (#66,449):
Where in Australia do you live/are staying at the moment? I don't own a gun myself (too young) but there are a lot of people in my area with riffles, shotguns and even a hand gun or two, and they never complained about how hard they were to purchase. When I turn 18 one of the first things I'm doing is applying for a shooters license and then buying the meanest looking gun I can find.
Anonymous 52415f93fb7416e2e994711622753702 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-05 13:29:08 UTC) ago, 36 minutes later (#66,456):
NSW near sydney
Anonymous 984663e5d5a51d0207b72c8ae416b4db replied with this 2 months (2008-10-05 13:35:07 UTC) ago, 6 minutes later (#66,459):
May I ask you why you want to defend yourself in the first place? I mean, do you think you will be attacked every now and then? Attacks are fairly rare…
Anonymous 1de7da63ac24a9fb351ba3417d5711f6 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-05 13:35:52 UTC) ago, 45 seconds later (#66,460):
Look on the bright side. You probably have much less need of a gun in Australia than you do here in the US. Unless drive-by shootings are a regular item in your police blotters locally (as they are here), you can count yourself lucky. I couldn't sleep without a gun nearby, myself, but repeated break-in attempts will do that to you. I've moved since the last one, but as I've said, the insanity is only spreading.
Say, how are Australia's immigration policies?
Anonymous 984663e5d5a51d0207b72c8ae416b4db replied with this 2 months (2008-10-05 13:40:51 UTC) ago, 5 minutes later (#66,461):
@66,460Thank you, now I will NEVER go to the US (I'm European). Is it really that bad in America?
Anonymous 1de7da63ac24a9fb351ba3417d5711f6 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-05 13:48:58 UTC) ago, 8 minutes later (#66,463):
@66,461In places, yes, it is that bad. But bear in mind that the US is a big place, with hot-spots of ridiculous, out-of-control gang activity separated by vast stretches of relative sanity. Thing is, some places that until very recently were safe are starting to see activity, and it is likely to get worse as the economy continues to tank.
Anonymous d31e37d5ab86582f751dcf491ed4a668 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-05 13:59:10 UTC) ago, 10 minutes later (#66,464):
@66,463Where did you live, if I may ask? I assume safety in really big cities, like New York, is not a problem. Am I right?
Anonymous 1de7da63ac24a9fb351ba3417d5711f6 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-05 14:16:08 UTC) ago, 17 minutes later (#66,466):
@66,464I feel I'm drifting OT here, and I'm not too familiar with NYC specifically, but a tourist doing typical tourist things and going to typical tourist places in most major US cities is really pretty safe with a modicum of vigilance. It's the people who live day in and day out within the wrong few residential city blocks who have (by far) the most to fear. Many of these folks live without hope of escaping the violence, since these areas tend to be the most impoverished and it takes a good bit of seed money to make it out (now more than ever, with the housing market all messed up).
I don't mean to overstate the problems, but my own experiences are burned upon my brain and tend to come to the fore in discussions like these. Sorry if I've steered the thread off its intended course.
Anonymous e97235dda09fb7eb9534b3cbb483f6b3 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-05 14:19:24 UTC) ago, 3 minutes later (#66,467):
How about martial arts, especially when guns are hard to come by (and you are therefore less likely to be assaulted by people with guns)
Anonymous bd3edb69db95e63112c96f6d7896b228 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-05 14:57:16 UTC) ago, 38 minutes later (#66,477):
@66,466See, I never understood that attitude. "I'll never make it
out". Pack up your necessities, grab your 5 kids or whatever, and walk your lazy fucking ass to a new god damn city if it's so bad. That attitude is pure bullshit.
Anonymous b70f75dee06bd4a8e96c2bf88d78eca6 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-06 06:46:43 UTC) ago, 16 hours later (#66,707):
Incidentally, now in the U.S. handgun bans are illegal.
I've lived in the country (Northern California) for most of my life and owning a gun is just S.O.P for scaring away trespassers or pot-growers (if you own a lot of property people sneak onto your property and grow pot there so its not connected to them). We also owned guns for hunting but not everyone hunts.
I live in a really shitty neighborhood in the north bay now, and I'm thinking of buying a handgun because someone else in my apartment complex just got robbed.
Anonymous fd10429a6d7c516ef96494b6cea7abcc replied with this 2 months (2008-10-06 07:54:25 UTC) ago, 1 hour later (#66,732):
@66,477The problem with that is that once you leave, you have to find a place to stay. Even when the economy was doing great, that wasn't easy for some people. You have to be able to pay for the new place you are moving too, and the better the area the more expensive it is even if you are just staying in a motel. This is even more difficult if the only thing on your resume is that sold fast food. Many places require references and character witnesses before you can move in as well, and you can't get that if you just walked away from your old life. There is also the possibility that you don't know where to find a decent place to live, and if you don't have a (street legal) car you'll be even more limited. I'm sure other people can think of reasons why it may be tough for someone in the states to leave the only city they've ever even seen.
Anonymous be4f2e76b743cba4b3371a4d1cfc8d0a replied with this 2 months (2008-10-07 14:36:34 UTC) ago, 1 day later (#67,198):
what is the situation about licence to own the gun and licence to carry it? i heard carry licence is rly hard to get as they only give it to cops/military personel
Anonymous 4b3f235d862239bb42b0f22f94916188 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-07 21:32:31 UTC) ago, 7 hours later (#67,373):
The only form of self defense in Denmark is - hold on to your chairs so you don't fall off - hitting the person back ONCE if you have been hit, other than that, it's violence.
So say I'm getting beat up, if I were to follow the law I could only hit him once, and then run, if I hit him twice, then he can sue me for violence.
A friend of mine was once walking with his girlfriend on a sidewalk on a residential street, then a drug addict comes and starts hitting them and wanting their money. My friend fucking beat the living shit out of him and called the cops. When the cops came, one of the cops asked my friend: "How many times did you hit him? Once, right?" and my friend was like "umm..", the copper again: "Once, RIGHT?" And my friend said once.
So eventhough the law sucks, some coppers try to work around it, because in this case they knew that the druggie was a well known person by the police, and they didn't wan't to have more hazzle with him, so they just took him away.
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