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Topic: Opinions on McCain outside the U.S.

Anonymous 327a23f32a04d52f9daf41a8d9694100 started this discussion 2 months (2008-10-08 21:27:28 UTC) ago:

Is there anyone outside the U.S. (with the exception of Saudi Arabians) who actually wants McCain to win? Do any non-Americans here approve of him or know someone who does?

Anonymous 8c4311a59891b571055846c01a1dc059 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-08 21:36:46 UTC) ago, 9 minutes later (#67,677):

Here in Denmark the general idea is that he will continue a neo-con administration, something which is very bad seen through our Scandinavian, semi-socialist eyes.

Anonymous f3cd55adebaccba4bd04f1b2e76f9215 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-08 21:47:51 UTC) ago, 11 minutes later (#67,681):

Obama is what the UK wants.

Anonymous 0955c05cc4004d17f92192fe7ef094a1 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-08 22:12:46 UTC) ago, 25 minutes later (#67,695):

Same in Germany

Anonymous 639d36437c18d9c4cca7411397857bdf replied with this 2 months (2008-10-08 22:14:40 UTC) ago, 2 minutes later (#67,697):

Thank you for speaking on the behalf of the UK People.

Human here. I'd like to think that the rest of the world doesn't actually believe like America does that an election is even going to take place.
Make sure to hold onto your ideaology of liberty and justice for all when blackwater come to zip your family up in a body bag. God bless Dumbarica.

Anonymous 0955c05cc4004d17f92192fe7ef094a1 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-08 22:18:10 UTC) ago, 4 minutes later (#67,701):

He is so right.

Anonymous 591bdfd8fda8242774d4c77dc95a371b replied with this 2 months (2008-10-08 22:18:40 UTC) ago, 30 seconds later (#67,702):

@67,697

I doubt blackwater has the resource to do anything. But I'm biased toward executive outcomes anyway.

The town of Obama Japan is opposed to McCain.

Anonymous 639d36437c18d9c4cca7411397857bdf replied with this 2 months (2008-10-08 23:21:03 UTC) ago, 1 hour later (#67,729):

@67,702

The following is a hypothetical situation.

Blackwater would serve to kill and murder those infected from the virus. A Legitmate and swallowable excuse for mass genocide on the America public. It was necessary to stop the spread of infection. The infection which could have killed YOU. Now you support the mass genocide because it saved your life.

Even though the virus was created by the goverment.

Anonymous 2920a0a86d2e87ef65202135c7128e78 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-09 00:04:15 UTC) ago, 43 minutes later (#67,734):

From the U.K here. Obama is the one all people I know are rooting for. Everybody else just sees McCain as McSame.

Anonymous 46a9b3d7a4ab30bdd88e9cb8a5fadacc replied with this 2 months (2008-10-09 00:50:37 UTC) ago, 46 minutes later (#67,754):

Briton here, and we usually say Obama. But tbh noone actually cares what your country does. do you care which Prime Minister we get?

Anonymous 3dd91d952a18df66c5a52d4cfd8b3c4c replied with this 2 months (2008-10-09 01:04:55 UTC) ago, 14 minutes later (#67,767):

Almost all countries in the world (if not all) want whatever is worse for America.

Anonymous b55a37343849d99d6c591106007ed47d replied with this 2 months (2008-10-09 02:12:22 UTC) ago, 1 hour later (#67,779):

Canada love Obama!

Anonymous 0fa182c605597275ff9e7cc231026464 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-09 02:31:52 UTC) ago, 20 minutes later (#67,784):

> Almost all countries in the world (if not all) want whatever is worse for America.

It's the other way around. Everyone wants what's best for America. If we fail, you fail along with us. We're simply such a big influence on the rest of the world that if we fuck ourselves over, everyone around the world will end up wishing we hadn't. At least until we become less of a global influence.

Practically everyone in the US wants Obama to win though. It might be hard to believe this if you aren't in the country, but the collective sentiment is that Obama should and must win. Even if McCain represents the status quo, people have been persuaded by Obama's charisma.

Anonymous 75fa61e78671900feb918befaa39ae42 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-09 03:08:02 UTC) ago, 36 minutes later (#67,798):

@67,784

> >Almost all countries in the world (if not all) want whatever is worse for America.
>
> It's the other way around. Everyone wants what's best for America. If we fail, you fail along with us. We're simply such a big influence on the rest of the world that if we fuck ourselves over, everyone around the world will end up wishing we hadn't. At least until we become less of a global influence.

Bull — shit. Every country in the world doesn't want the U.S. to affect them in a negative way, but that doesn't mean they wish us to grow in power, influence, prestige, virtue. Like i said, almost every country in the world would like to see the U.S. taken down notches while the rest of the world catches up.

> Practically everyone in the US wants Obama to win though. It might be hard to believe this if you aren't in the country, but the collective sentiment is that Obama should and must win. Even if McCain represents the status quo, people have been persuaded by Obama's charisma.

Haha. What the fuck are you talking about. McCain and Obama are nearly tied in the polls, and those Americans who pay no attention to politics are by and large part of the center-right cultural fabric of America. Obama is a product of the mainstream media and his supposed popularity is inexplicable to sane Americans. He has 50% of the vote because he's the Democrat in the race.

Anonymous 8a9db755a523cb66b23c21dee9ace379 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-09 03:22:27 UTC) ago, 14 minutes later (#67,804):

http://iftheworldcouldvote.com/ (Note that USA has 82% to Obama on this site).

"Normal" people in Australia don't seem to be watching the race much at all. It is popular to hate Bush and the Iraq war, however. People see McCain as exactly like Bush, and since there is little to no racism towards African Americans here, everybody would want Obama in (as he is clearly the better candidate).

Conspiracy theorists such as myself know Obama is still part of the establishment and will continue WW3/covert monetary politics. I'd still like Obama in due to his rationality and presence. I think McCain would be much more violent and imperialistic.

Anonymous 0fa182c605597275ff9e7cc231026464 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-09 21:55:19 UTC) ago, 19 hours later (#68,023):

> Bull — shit. Every country in the world doesn't want the U.S. to affect them in a negative way, but that doesn't mean they wish us to grow in power, influence, prestige, virtue. Like i said, almost every country in the world would like to see the U.S. taken down notches while the rest of the world catches up.

Look, you get what I mean. Why would other countries want what's worse for America if it will affect them in a negative way? Countries don't want what's worse for America, they want America's power to wane. It all has to do with time. If you immediately cut the U.S. down, global economy will go fucking berserk. Do it slowly, and everyone has the proper time to make adjustments and even out the playing field.

> Haha. What the fuck are you talking about. McCain and Obama are nearly tied in the polls, and those Americans who pay no attention to politics are by and large part of the center-right cultural fabric of America. Obama is a product of the mainstream media and his supposed popularity is inexplicable to sane Americans. He has 50% of the vote because he's the Democrat in the race.

I don't pay attention to media all that much. I'm speaking from my day to day experiences, and it seems like everyone is voting for Obama. I live in an upper class white suburban area. If these kind of people are actually voting for Obama, then who isn't?

Anonymous 591bdfd8fda8242774d4c77dc95a371b replied with this 2 months (2008-10-10 02:04:34 UTC) ago, 4 hours later (#68,132):

@68,023

> If these kind of people are actually voting for Obama, then who isn't?

Impoverished and lower middle class rural white people?

Anonymous 4338f68e50e375225bd7cd84cee7c497 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-13 13:35:28 UTC) ago, 3 days later (#69,260):

I'm Australian and I know both will fail to address the true, long and medium term problems of the US. I in fact support McCain because I would rather see the US fail completely to stimulate actual, structural change in the US political, government and economic (maybe even social?) structures than have it reduced to another pathetic partisan approach which will ultimately accomplish very little. The country is already ruined. I feel revolution or at least major upheaval is inevitable now.

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