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Anonymous c24466c9068ce880075ad358447d17f4 started this discussion 2 months (2008-10-09 05:01:35 UTC) ago:
I've lived around the world and had friends who were or still are refugees from Africa.
There's one thing I don't understand. They'll get sufficient money to live on, will spend a proportion on looking good (which seems to be very important to them because they all do it), including buying designer brands, yet they have horrible body odour, even first thing in the morning. They come in where I work, dressed up like they're going to party with celebrities, and they stink the entire place out. Don't get me wrong, they are (generally) lovely people, but this odour issue is very difficult to take, and it requires a lot of air freshener to make bearable.
This indicates to me that firstly, showering happens infrequently, and secondly, that they do not use deodorant.
Besides the obvious cultural differences which might explain this (e.g.: limited access to water in the past to clean with, limited social importance placed on smell, no access to deodorant in the past), does anyone know why? Given the preference for trendy/brand-name stuff, I would have thought colognes and nice smelling stuff would be very desirable for them….
Just confused…
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Anonymous 22bab44cafc87fd06524f283fd07b3c3 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-09 05:06:03 UTC) ago, 4 minutes later (#67,838):
There is a good chance that they are indeed wearing cologne or deodorizers. The problem is that the pick fragrances that are unbecoming. The other issue is that diet can have a huge impact that the individual often can't even detect. Most people don't know what they naturally smell like, but can tell what other people smell like.
Anonymous 603726de7213ea865d44a4efa3d8c2f8 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-09 05:08:58 UTC) ago, 3 minutes later (#67,839):
That's odd. I live in a building in a area that is highly African American (as in, there are 19 floors and two white families, and we're one of them), and I spend a lot of time in packed elevators with black people, and I've noticed that they have any body odour worse than any other group (Indians are the worse though, none wear deodorant and they all smell like curry).
We're in Canada so maybe that's it? Canadian blacks know how to shower? *shrug*
Anonymous c24466c9068ce880075ad358447d17f4 (OP) replied with this 2 months (2008-10-09 05:11:05 UTC) ago, 2 minutes later (#67,840):
@67,839> That's odd….No, I mean Africans, not African-Americans or African-Canadians. These ones came here from Africa :-)
Anonymous 22bab44cafc87fd06524f283fd07b3c3 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-09 05:17:38 UTC) ago, 7 minutes later (#67,845):
@67,839You live with a lot of African Americans in Canada? Are you sure? Anyway, he is talking about first generation immigrants straight from the continent. More likely than not it is something they eat, drink, or smoke.
Anonymous c24466c9068ce880075ad358447d17f4 (OP) replied with this 2 months (2008-10-09 05:22:13 UTC) ago, 5 minutes later (#67,848):
@67,845> More likely than not it is something they eat, drink, or smoke.The actual smell seems to be the African "flavour" of what I would smell like if I spent the day in the heat without showering or using deodorant… Just a lot stronger and, well, "Africany"… ;-) You could be right about the diet, but I think the strength of it is what's problematic.
Anonymous 603726de7213ea865d44a4efa3d8c2f8 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-09 05:24:34 UTC) ago, 2 minutes later (#67,849):
@67,840> > That's odd….>> No, I mean Africans, not African-Americans or African-Canadians. These ones came here from Africa :-)Yeah, the ones in my building are first-gen Canadian, so they have accents, speak African, etc.
@#67,845
Yeah, I live in an infamous neighbourhood in Toronto that is mainly black. Yes, we have black people in Canada, educate yourself.
Anonymous c24466c9068ce880075ad358447d17f4 (OP) replied with this 2 months (2008-10-09 05:25:15 UTC) ago, 41 seconds later (#67,851):
@67,839> …(Indians are the worse though, none wear deodorant and they all smell like curry). I feel you. I took the bus to university for two years, and on the last leg of my trip each day, the bus was inevitably so full that you'd have an Indian student holding onto the hand rail above you with his marvelous stench precipitating upon you from his armpit above your head.
I think that might be the same… No shower, no deodorant. Although an Indian friend I have is fine, but he spent a few years in the US.
Anonymous 22bab44cafc87fd06524f283fd07b3c3 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-09 05:31:20 UTC) ago, 6 minutes later (#67,855):
@67,848I have no evidence of it, but it might be that the deodorant doesn't work on everyone. Humans have body odor because bacteria on the skin consumes sweat, and if different people have different bacteria the smell would be different and would be affect more/less by certain deodorant.
@67,849I know black people live in Canada, but are the African
American if they live in Canada and not the States?
Anonymous 603726de7213ea865d44a4efa3d8c2f8 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-09 05:35:09 UTC) ago, 4 minutes later (#67,859):
> I know black people live in Canada, but are the African American if they live in Canada and not the States?
I am a retard. Damn American television taking over and making "African-American" into one word that just slips out. I apologize.
Anonymous 22bab44cafc87fd06524f283fd07b3c3 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-09 05:46:22 UTC) ago, 11 minutes later (#67,872):
@67,859It isn't your fault, I am just pointing out that you may as well just call them black people. If you call yourself white, if they call you white, and they call themselves black…
Now if you call yourself Caucasian that is a different story.
Anonymous 603726de7213ea865d44a4efa3d8c2f8 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-09 05:57:20 UTC) ago, 11 minutes later (#67,875):
@67,872> It isn't your fault, I am just pointing out that you may as well just call them black people. If you call yourself white, if they call you white, and they call themselves black…>> Now if you call yourself Caucasian that is a different story.True enough, especially since around here half the black people are Caribbean, not African. Whatever the case, I really fucking wish we didn't live here anymore. One more year though (close to school, cheap rent).
Anonymous 8050f1716404771525b21073a00f398b replied with this 2 months (2008-10-09 19:15:18 UTC) ago, 13 hours later (#67,981):
They smell bad so the blind can hate them too.
Anonymous 45701eb43a67e5bcabe9c6dfa6e6076c replied with this 2 months (2008-10-09 22:20:41 UTC) ago, 3 hours later (#68,043):
Could just be a cultural deal. When I was in Iraq, all of the people smelled like shit. You could literally follow a scent trail around a store and know where they'd been. It's definitely a cultural thing for them though, as they think we smell weird by being clean.
Anonymous bc00a1c5575f555c4162387772f2a946 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-09 22:57:13 UTC) ago, 37 minutes later (#68,065):
@68,043I think those people in Iraq do not have access to enough water to clean themselves every morning.
Anonymous cc9cfb438519650c5ea25cac6b6920f4 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-10 20:20:53 UTC) ago, 21 hours later (#68,343):
Many African societies regard body odour as a good thing: the stronger the odour, the more powerful the man. They do wash, but are just careful not to wash THERE.
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