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Anonymous 6d8cfa46b013656e111209fc1f7fd8cd started this discussion 2 months (2008-10-13 23:33:57 UTC) ago:
I need some advice. I finally worked up the balls to approach two chicks I didn't know in a pharmacy. Here's how the conversation approximately went (if you could read it and give me some advice, that would be nice):
Me: Hi, I just saw you girls here and was wondering if I could ask you a question.
Them: Ok
Me; Yeah, I have a friend and she has a birthday coming up, and I was wondering what to get her. Do you guys have any suggestions?
Chick 1: Oh, is she a girlfriend or just a friend?
Me; Aa, just a friend.
Chick 1: Oh, I think you should try X, or Y, or Z.
Me: Oh, ok…
Chick 1: Yeah, I think you should go with Z
(Chick 1 turns around and grabs something from shelf.)
Me: Thank you. What's your name?
Chick 1: I'm _____.
(I turn to Chick 2)
Me: And what's your name?
Chick 2: I'm ___
Me: Oh, I'm so and so. Nice to meet you, thanks for your help.
(I walk away. I hear them have a giggle as I walk away.)
Granted that this was very awkward, however, I felt really good that I finally had the balls to make an approach (the embarrasment wasn't as bad as I thought it would be). I wanted to continue the conversation, but near the end of what I listed, I ran out of things to say, got a bit scared, and decided to end the conversation. If you guys have any suggestions on how I could have continued the conversation, I'd really appreciate it (end goal is to get a girl's number). Keep in mind that I've started reading the Game but think (in all honesty) that the only way I'm REALLY going to get better is by actually making approaches and through btrial and error.
If you have any advice, please take my personal background in mind. For most of my life, I've been way too shy to even consider myself an Average Frustrated Chump (i.e. I didn't have the balls to even approach the girl most of the time, let alone get her number). I'm decent looking but awkward as hell. My social skills are not very good and that's probably because I go out so rarely and spend most of my time at home, meaning that my skills don't have a chance to be exercised and strengthened (using a muscle analogy).
Any serious help would be appreciated.
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Anonymous 2f414898882cf209844cb919432c9728 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-13 23:51:45 UTC) ago, 18 minutes later (#69,442):
Firstly after asking their name, tell them yours. Then tell them it was nice speaking to them and you would love to do it again some time. If they agree then ask them for their number, if they mumble 'Yeah' or say anything in a tone that you think implies they don't want to, say your goodbye's and walk away.
Anonymous 78a31c0653df34f911daa18e312323d0 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-14 00:08:34 UTC) ago, 17 minutes later (#69,449):
Your problem is that you're talking to random fucking girls.
Anonymous 8b74465025eee1a0080ce776385b46cf replied with this 2 months (2008-10-14 05:15:18 UTC) ago, 5 hours later (#69,584):
Not bad man. Good on you. I think making some playful digs at their choices of gifts could have injected some humour into the situation plus would have been an opportunity to neg them. Although that may have not been possible without seeming like a dick.
Even just asking them if they would like these gifts themselves could have kept the convo going a little longer. I dunno after that, maybe some story/lie about the girl involving you that could show higher value? " Well we aren't together but I know she did have a crush on me. So I don't want to get her hopes up with this gift " (something like that, I am also poor at this stuff).
That's unfortunately all I can think of on the spot. Good topic though.
Anonymous 5864b5242eb8c332331f9bf156c3805b replied with this 2 months (2008-10-14 08:13:46 UTC) ago, 3 hours later (#69,684):
I think it's great that you're doing this. You'll get better over time. To improve your conversation, I'd say you should have moved the conversation over to the some other topic, perhaps by giving a comment about one of the gifts that they mention. Something like "My friend is a really girly/tomboyish girl? Would she like this _item_?" Just keep it casual. Then you can orientate your questions toward the girls you're chatting with. Like "So this _item_ is something you would want for your bday?" And since you're in a two-set (2 girls), talk more to the one you're not attracted to and build a friendly relationship with her first. Then move in for the real target. Overall I commend you for actually trying to having a convo with them.
Anonymous e180b7a541cc710d70eb8cde238e86be replied with this 2 months (2008-10-14 11:11:50 UTC) ago, 3 hours later (#69,757):
First off, don't say "can I ask you a question…," just ask it. Remember to smile. Don't just focus on the gifts or whatever, change the topic, do whatever it takes to say something interesting/worthwhile. Talk about your hobbies or something interesting that happened to you that week. If your desperate, make situational observations, like "Where did you get your sweater its very ethnic?" etc..
Remember to ask them some questions when relevant, but remember that you need to do most of the talking initially since you are a stranger to them. Initially when you meet someone and your talking about yourself remember to focus on DHVs (Demonstrations of Higher Value), that is good things about yourself or what you want the other person to perceive you as. Its like showing your better half or your good side to someone initially, but don't be arrogant about it.
Use kino by shaking their hand, tap their shoulder, etc… Just do whatever feels natural or what you would do with your guy friends.
Once you have talked to them for awhile and they feel more comfortable, suggest a place to go after the pharmacy, like grab some food or movie, etc. Try changing the venue as much as you can. Or if that doesn't work just simply say "I had a great time talking with you and would like to do it again sometime, can I have your number?" And give them your phone so they can enter it in, and then call them right then, so they have your number. Then call them within 0-3 days max and do something fun!
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Anonymous 180097f091cc17f4e418f396dc50ed38 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-14 19:38:59 UTC) ago, 8 hours later (#69,970):
Screw all that just go to some parties or some shit, too much hard work that way.
Anonymous f42bc4cc6eaac9f847f9101eba0ef521 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-16 07:58:22 UTC) ago, 2 days later (#70,714):
This is what you do go up to the girls and say "Hey you guys are hot wanna have oral sex with me?" If they scream and drop kick you in your special area well than you failed. But chances are they might find this charming girls are strange creatures. Give it a try you only got your left nut to lose.
Anonymous f42bc4cc6eaac9f847f9101eba0ef521 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-16 08:00:19 UTC) ago, 2 minutes later (#70,715):
Girls aren't worth your time dude. My advice don't even bother with them enjoy your left hand and being single.
Anonymous f42bc4cc6eaac9f847f9101eba0ef521 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-16 08:01:10 UTC) ago, 51 seconds later (#70,716):
Don't waste your time with them hoes bro.
Anonymous f42bc4cc6eaac9f847f9101eba0ef521 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-16 08:03:12 UTC) ago, 2 minutes later (#70,717):
Hey bro instead of wasting time making small talk just go up there and ask for phone numbers. If they give you one rip it up in front of them and say your a faggot but thanks for the offer. It might not get you laid but you will have a few laughs out of it.
Anonymous f42bc4cc6eaac9f847f9101eba0ef521 replied with this 2 months (2008-10-16 08:06:21 UTC) ago, 3 minutes later (#70,719):
Next time you approach women or in your case 16 year old girls don't be a fucking pussy. Hell tell them you have a 12 inch snake locked in a cage and you need help getting him out. They might say yes to unleashing your trouser snake if so wear condoms you don't want little fuckers running around.
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