@Whoever deleted it: Please don't delete a thread with 40 replies ever again. You cannot honestly tell me that all of those posts deserved to be deleted; there were maybe 2 or 3 channish posts in there, but many people (like the guy I was replying to) had actually made some interesting points. What one or two idiots did does not warrant silencing everyone.

> So if the age of consent would be 12… would you have any problems with having sex with a 12 year old? What if the age of consent was 6? Or let's go the other way: imagine the age of consent would be 24. Would that make you stop from feeling sexually attracted to a 20 year old? The point I am trying to make is that the age of consent doesn't make any sense. So saying you are not attracted to anyone younger than 16 just because that's the age of consent in your country is just stupid.

Well put. People should have good reason for believing something, not just fall back on the law because it's convenient and they're too lazy to come up with their own opinions. For example, take a look at this image: http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/6366/4061lk1.jpg
The girl in this photograph could believably be over or under 16; are you telling be that you would keep it if it turned out she was 16, but not if she was 15 and 11 months? You would base your whole concept of whether this girl had been "abused" on this one (unknown) quantity rather than the actual content of the image? Let's imagine that she took pictures like this all throughout the week she turned 16, would you really argue that the picture she took one day was abuse while the one from the next day was not? Or would you look at the content of the photograph and come to your own conclusions, disregarding age altogether.

> But wanting someone (with a certain sexual attraction that he does not act upon) to die, makes you at least as bad.

No it doesn't. Having a thought is in no way equivalent to being a "sadist with a fucked up mind who acted upon it".

> Many pedophiles do not even want a sexual relationship with a child. They merely want to be with them, hold them, love them in a non-sexual way.

Wrong. That's affection, not pedophilia. Pedophilia is definied as a sexual attraction toward prepubescent children. I have affection for cats, does that make me a zoophile? When I become a parent I will have a very strong affection and non-sexual love for my children…are you saying that would make me a pedophile?
I think you're getting some very different concepts confused here.

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For context, the full text of the post I was replying to:

> >I'm 18 and the youngest I would go is 16 since that's the age of consent here.

> Your reply seems to imply that the only reason you would not have sex with someone <16 is because the age of consent in your country doesn't allow you to. So if the age of consent would be 12… would you have any problems with having sex with a 12 year old? What if the age of consent was 6? Or let's go the other way: imagine the age of consent would be 24. Would that make you stop from feeling sexually attracted to a 20 year old? The point I am trying to make is that the age of consent doesn't make any sense. So saying you are not attracted to anyone younger than 16 just because that's the age of consent in your country is just stupid.

> Another misunderstanding among many/most people is that all pedophiles are childmolesters. I can understand why so many people think this way. When you hear about pedophiles in the media, it's always because they've done something wrong (e.g. raped a child). But saying that all pedophiles are childmolesters would be the same thing as saying all muslims are terrorists. Not all muslims fly planes into buildings and neither do a all pedophiles rape children.

> In fact, even many childmolesters aren't really pedophiles themselves. Take Marc Dutroux as an example. He kidnapped and sexually abused children, eventually killing them. The reason he picked children however was not because he felt sexual attraction towards children, but moreover because little children are just easier to kidnap than adults (not as strong, easier to intimidate and make them do what you want, etc). He was just a sadist with a fucked up mind and 'he acted upon it'. And he should be punished for what he has done, of course. Same goes for all childmolesters, or rapists, murderers, etc. I think every anon here would agree with me on that.

> But wanting someone (with a certain sexual attraction that he does not act upon) to die, makes you at least as bad. You have a desire to kill someone. How isn't that worse than feeling sexually attracted to a child (without acting upon it)? Many pedophiles do not even want a sexual relationship with a child. They merely want to be with them, hold them, love them in a non-sexual way. Like some people like puppies I guess. But they are not allowed to because of the paranoia in today's society. So they have to keep their feelings for themselves. They cannot share it with anyone they love, because other people would not understand and condemn them. Here on anontalk on the other hand, they find people who are likeminded and they can share their feelings and opinions without being scared to be hurt (physically of emotionally) or being scared that they lose the love and respect of their lovedones. So there you have the answer to your question OP. Hope that makes things clear.

> Remember: pedophiles do not choose to become a pedophile. It's not like on a random day a guy decides to feel sexually attracted to children. Just like someone doesn't decide to be homosexual, or to have any other kind of sexual orientation. They just are that way. If you cannot understand that, fine. But granting them deathwishes (just because of your limited capability to understand what I just wrote down) doesn't make anything better. That way you're creating a world with even more hostility and closemindedness and thereby making the world even a more fucked up place to live. For you 'and your (future) children'.

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