So I went out with this chick 4 seperate times. Yes, I know, massive failure etc.

1st time-We broke up due to me being a noob to dating (she was my first) and just generally not having a clue.

2nd time-Her parents broke us up. (They are hardcore Christians and she isn't allowed to date despite being 16)

3rd time-She says she has to break up with me because of my religion, something she had known about for forever. I'm Deist. I think she was going through a faith crisis or some shit. I remember her breaking into tears as she took my hands and told me I would go to hell if I didn't get baptized and convert.

4th time.-Her parents break us up due to her father catching her cuddling with me.

All that happened last (school) year. This year, about a month ago, she was having a lot of trouble with her boyfriend and started flirting with me a lot. I told her to knock it off since she was with somebody. She broke up with him and continued to flirt with me, and making it very clear she desired another go at us. I thought about a 5th run, but in the end I figured it would only hurt me, or her, or us, and decided not to pursue it.

I've never met another girl that I so inherently 'click' with. Its like a step up from comradeship, which I consider to be the ultimate form of friendship. Let me make this clear-I do not love her and I have never loved her, so I'm hoping that I don't just have goggles on because she was my first.

Do I indeed have goggles? Should I go for a 5th attempt? Other thoughts/questions?

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You'll always have a soft spot for your first. A book by which many anons swear by is "the game" ive never read it, but i know one of the points he makes is "You have one, ONE chance with each woman you date." I don't know if i believe this, but it's probably true to a certain extent. It seems that each time you all broke up, it was due to an outside influence. Not to take all the blame from her, she still did choose to leave you, but at the same time, you cant expect her to go against the wishes of her parents. Before you have another go, (its worth a shot, right?) let her know that you care about the fact that she is religious, but ask her to keep it out of your relationship as it has caused problems in the past. And as for her parents, they seem to be the kind that would cling to their little girl like glue, and probably see you as corrupting her. Get to know her parents a bit, which could make things easier. (or take the bad boy route lol.) Good luck man.

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Her parents dislike me simply because I once dated their daughter. They also wouldn't like the fact that I refuse to be forcefed their church doctrine. My chance is ruined with them. Besides, even if they liked me, their daughter isn't allowed to date. Not that that stops her.

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I would just forget about it and go on with your life. If it hasnt worked out 4 times in a row what makes you think it'll work now? Unless you know for sure that its going to be different this time then fuck it.

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I don't know dude. Break-ups 1, 2 and 4 aren't so bad because chicks usually tell their parents to fuck off at some point, and #1 is clearly something you can get over. But how do you know 3 isn't going to happen again? Since you've got a history with her you can say "Look, I like you so I'm willing to give this another shot, but only if my being a different religion isn't an issue any more."

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I told her that after the third. I was pretty explicit.

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