Topic: To all the antis: Were you never horny as children?
Anonymous A started this topic 9 months (2009-07-04 04:53:?? UTC) ago (#28,863):
Lots of antis come on here and rant about child sexual behavior as always being coerced, involuntary, acted out only to fulfill a childish need to please the adult, or just plain forced.
I have to tell you, when I was in kindergarten I would try to peek under my teacher's skirt during naptime when we would sleep on the floor and she'd walk around the room to check on us. When I was in 2nd grade I pinched a girl's ass (and got kicked in the nuts for it) because I felt that that's what men did, and it felt good. I distinctly remember playing doctor at age 6 with a girl in the neighborhood and having a raging boner whenever I'd get to suck those tits as a child, which I did on a regular basis, and even jacking off at least once a week before the age of 10. My sexual play (with partners) as a kid started from about 6 years old til I was around 14, when I had my last "childhood" tryst with a cousin of a cousin in whose house I was staying. I was a very horny kid. After that encounter with the cousin's cousin, I had a long dry spell that lasted about 5 years til I had my first prostitute at 19, then a year or so after that I got in a serious relationship during college, then another long dry spell, and now I'm a relatively well-adjusted, outwardly "normal" married man with 2 cars, a steady job, a place in the church choir, etc etc. Aside from the fact that I'm an atheist and I love CP, I think I fit in pretty well with my social group (the "going to church" thing is because of my wife).
Anyway, whenever I catch a CP discussion here on the board, inevitably some antis will show up outraged and start posting about how the kids in the videos are all victims, they don't understand the consequences of their actions, don't grasp the meaning of what they're doing, etc etc. I have to pause in disbelief. Yes, I concede that there is CP out there that is pretty much rape (the Tara series) but to that I counter with the Vicky videos, or any number of LS Studio-style JB girl videos where they're stripping and or dancing for the camera seductively. As I said, I was a very horny kid, and if at age 8, a grown 35 year old woman had offered me some real fucking sex and told me she were going to film it, I'd have one word to say to her: "Action!"
So my question is, did none of you antis ever have sexual feelings when you were children? Because to me this stance of children being completely innocent and asexual is analogous to old people thinking that young people's music is too loud; even though they did the same thing in their youth, they seem to have forgotten what it felt like when they were younger, and are now completely on the opposite end of the spectrum from where they once stood.
Thoughts?
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Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 9 months (2009-07-04 04:56:?? UTC) ago, 3 minutes later (#172,694):
I was never much of a sex-driven child. I don't think I got horny at all until I was at least 11.
Considering the sex drive doesn't fully develop until adolescence, I think that sexual behavior before that point is slightly unnatural.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 9 months (2009-07-04 05:06:?? UTC) ago, 10 minutes later, 13 minutes past creation (#172,703):
@previousThis discussion has already been had. The sex drive is inborn and prepubescent sex is completely "natural."
http://www.anontalk.com/topic/28808 Anonymous B replied with this 9 months (2009-07-04 05:09:?? UTC) ago, 2 minutes later, 15 minutes past creation (#172,705):
I wouldn't know; I haven't been here long. I'm just talking from my personal experience. I was never a horny kid, so I suppose I don't understand those who were.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 9 months (2009-07-04 05:09:?? UTC) ago, 45 seconds later, 16 minutes past creation (#172,706):
Yeah, what the second anon said. I wasn't really interested in sexual stuff until I was about 12, and that was because I'd run into some porn accidentally. I can't imagine doing anything sexual with someone before that.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 9 months (2009-07-04 05:10:?? UTC) ago, 35 seconds later, 17 minutes past creation (#172,707):
Yes, I was. I remember being about… 8 - 10 years old and wanting to hump a female after seeing a sexual scene in a movie. I also remember that at about the same age, when I was at the house of my dad's friend, I asked his daughter (my age) to come into the closet with me. I wanted to get intimate in some way, and as soon as she noticed this she went out because she didn't want that. Anyway, I don't think that there is anything wrong with children having some sort of rudimentary sexuality, but I think that there is something wrong with them engaging sexually with someone who isn't their age. With an adult, there could be psychological damage, and it could be abuse.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 9 months (2009-07-04 05:24:?? UTC) ago, 14 minutes later, 31 minutes past creation (#172,716):
I distinctly remember the first time I got my orgasm - I was 5 years old and was climbing a pole.
Ever since then I would masturbate by placing my forearm between my legs and rubbing it against my cock.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 9 months (2009-07-04 05:44:?? UTC) ago, 20 minutes later, 51 minutes past creation (#172,727):
@previousDamn! That's me—It happened to me
exactly the same way and age!
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 9 months (2009-07-04 06:17:?? UTC) ago, 33 minutes later, 1 hour past creation (#172,758):
I don't remember ever being horny prior to puberty, but I do remember one play time when I was I think maybe 8. I was at this girl's house alone with her brother and she wanted this lighter he had. He said he'd give it to her if I'd fuck her. I said I would, but back then I didn't know what a vagina was so I tried to fuck her in the ass. I didn't know about getting my 8 year old dick hard either, so trying to fit my tiny 8 year old dick through her ass cheeks into the hole ultimately failed. I'm surprised the brother being older didn't know how to tell us to do it properly either.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 9 months (2009-07-04 07:03:?? UTC) ago, 46 minutes later, 2 hours past creation (#172,785):
I dunno about at EIGHT, but around 13-18 if an older girl/woman had in anyway propositioned me for sex, I would have gone for it. With a condom(yes, I knew about and believed in safe sex back then, since I was 10 years old actually), and I probably wouldn't have agreed to getting filmed, but still…
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 9 months (2009-07-04 07:45:?? UTC) ago, 42 minutes later, 3 hours past creation (#172,810):
> So my question is, did none of you antis ever have sexual feelings when you were children? Because to me this stance of children being completely innocent and asexual is analogous to old people thinking that young people's music is too loud; even though they did the same thing in their youth, they seem to have forgotten what it felt like when they were younger, and are now completely on the opposite end of the spectrum from where they once stood.
Well… Frankly I never was a horny kid. Hell even now if some attractive woman offered me sex I would have little problem saying no and going to crack open a Dostoevsky. Personally opinion is directly opposing of yours and I think that CP is perverted however, I am mature enough to understand that you post here for two reasons.
a) Anonymity gives you basically no repercussions for watching/posting it.
b) This website is one of the very few (possibly the only one) place where you can do it with relatively little hassle.
But then you should understand another thing. Other people come here to have a serious discussion about things. And seeing the entire thread page roughly being 2/3 of thread either being anti-anti-CP or being CP gets a little annoying a little fast.
I do have a suggestion. You will never prove your point here. Simply hinting at having the right to do it (post CP) here would be much more effective in quelling any discussion in your CP threads.
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 9 months (2009-07-04 13:43:?? UTC) ago, 6 hours later, 9 hours past creation (#172,944):
Yes, I was. I didn't know what it was then, however, and I really didn't want to be fucked.
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 9 months (2009-07-04 14:32:?? UTC) ago, 50 minutes later, 10 hours past creation (#172,955):
I'm a pedophile, so I can't but guess at the motivations of antis. However, my guess is that they either don't remember their own childhood, or had a really bad childhood with parents who were abusive to them, or else maybe, somehow they just weren't very horny when they were kids.
I can speak for myself though and say that I was a very horny child. I remember feeling horny much of the time from when I was a toddler at least, and even though I was never had sex with anybody as a child, I associate childhood with sex, because that's an undeniable fact: childhood, for me at least, was sexy time! It's not just me either. I watch kids all the time, and I see the clear signs of it in them too. Unfortunately I also see adults do their best to suppress children's sexuality whenever it is expressed, which is a form of child abuse. It's sad to see, because I can see these kids growing up with the idea that sex is dirty, or bad, or "only for adults". Why can't people see sex as a positive thing, something to be celebrated rather than suppressed or misconstrued?
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 9 months (2009-07-05 15:24:?? UTC) ago, 1 day later, 1 day past creation (#173,659):
> I have to tell you, when I was in kindergarten I would try to peek under my teacher's skirt during naptime when we would sleep on the floor and she'd walk around the room to check on us.
That's just curiosity. My cousin also wanted to check me and her brother when we were going in the bathroom. But not because she wanted to fuck our brains out.
> When I was in 2nd grade I pinched a girl's ass (and got kicked in the nuts for it) because I felt that that's what men did, and it felt good.
Then how can you instinctively know what men are doing? Unless someone told you, I can't see any other reason.
> I distinctly remember playing doctor at age 6 with a girl in the neighborhood and having a raging boner whenever I'd get to suck those tits as a child, and even jacking off at least once a week before the age of 10.
Again, this cannot be explained unless there's something wrong with your hormones or you've been taught that. I've been jacking off at the age of 12, when I first saw some porn movies with this kind of action.
> Aside from the fact that I'm an atheist and I love CP, I think I fit in pretty well with my social group (the "going to church" thing is because of my wife).
No, I don't think you're normal. I was as sexually aroused as you were when I was a kid, and now I'm a necrophiliac. I think that it's truly something wrong with us, biologically speaking.
Just think about this: You were sexually aroused as a kid. I was too. What about my girlfriend, who can't barely kiss or hug me without blushing (She is 16, I'm 21)? Why isn't she as nymphomaniac as I am or as you are?
Response: Because not all of us do develop this way. Because it's physiologically wrong to think about sex at such age.
So the question is: What is the chance that those kids, who are fucked in child pornography movies, by pedophiles and child molesters, to be genetic errors as we are? How can one know which kid is aroused by sex and which isn't? Or how can you know which is attracted by older men or not?
You can't. So, the thing is, the pedophile responsible for the video or the non-filmed intercourse is taking responsibility in traumatizing the life of a kid which was not interested in going that far.
Anonymous L replied with this 8 months (2009-07-06 04:51:?? UTC) ago, 13 hours later, 2 days past creation (#174,038):
@previousIt's amazing to me that, in order to justify your opposition to pedophilia, you would go so far as to define normal sexual responses as abnormal only when they're experienced by children.
I masturbated before I ever saw any porn, and I was never abused. I've always been attracted to little girls, and loved looking up their skirts, not just out of curiosity, but also because I was turned on by what I saw. It's natural for males to be attracted to females, and vice-versa. Children are born with the same sexual urges we have as adults. The perversion is to think that children are asexual!
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 8 months (2009-07-06 05:15:?? UTC) ago, 25 minutes later, 2 days past creation (#174,061):
@previousIf this is true why do so many people say antis had to have been abused as a child to be non-sexual. That's the most retarded fucking bullshit excuse for a justification I've ever heard in my FUCKING life.
Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 8 months (2009-07-08 07:08:?? UTC) ago, 2 days later, 4 days past creation (#175,645):
Of course I was a horny kid, I'm male.
But I laugh at the idea of trying things out with another male at the time, which some gay pedos probably think is possible for them.
To the straight pedos, let me ask you something: do you think that a girl is as openly horny as guys in those early ages? That's one weakness in your arguments. The second? The thought that girls at those ages would even be remotely interested in a guy like you.
Anonymous P joined in and replied with this 8 months (2009-07-08 12:06:?? UTC) ago, 5 hours later, 4 days past creation (#175,833):
@previousSome of them are. Rare, yes, but impossible, no.
Anonymous Q joined in and replied with this 8 months (2009-07-29 16:01:?? UTC) ago, 3 weeks later, 4 weeks past creation (#191,000):
I always remember being curious, not horny.
I probably first masturbated with the active knowledge what I was doing was sexual at around 11.
I masturbated to porn from around 13, from that point on only was I completely aware I was having sexual desires for the opposite sex.
There's a point where kids mature into young adults and begin having and actually understanding sexual feelings. Before then it's all exploration and curiosity, not horniness. Yes some children may say yes to sex. But they don't really understand, they're just exploring or in some cases following role-modeled behavior.
Anonymous R joined in and replied with this 8 months (2009-07-29 17:27:?? UTC) ago, 1 hour later, 4 weeks past creation (#191,024):
I was horny from about 9 or 10 onwards. But I certainly wouldn't have wanted a big hairy guy to let me "experiment" with him. I liked girls my age or thereabouts then, and 4/5 years older would have been my limit.
Anonymous L replied with this 8 months (2009-07-29 17:39:?? UTC) ago, 11 minutes later, 4 weeks past creation (#191,031):
@191,000Speaking out of ignorance, I see. You don't really think every child is just like you were, do you? Or have you been brainwashed into believing that no child is capable of having sexual feelings? Because the facts stand squarely against you.
Anonymous R replied with this 8 months (2009-07-29 17:41:?? UTC) ago, 3 minutes later, 4 weeks past creation (#191,034):
I don't but of course YOU think all children were like you. It's called "the wish being father to the thought".
Anonymous R double-posted this 8 months (2009-07-29 17:43:?? UTC) ago, 2 minutes later, 4 weeks past creation (#191,036):
Oh I see, of course! Yes! Most kids actually DO want a big, hairy, ugly, balding, bad-breathed loser to fondle them! Of course! How could I be SO stupid!!!
Anonymous L replied with this 8 months (2009-07-29 18:04:?? UTC) ago, 21 minutes later, 4 weeks past creation (#191,044):
@191,034Far from it! I find that every child is different, and you can't evaluate a child based on your own experiences. Some kids have a stronger libido than others. Also libido increases in its intensity with age, so for instance when I was a baby I wasn't very horny, when I was 4 I was quite horny, at 8 I was really getting into it, and at 12 I wanted sex with anything that had a pulse. But not everybody is like me, and some kids' sexual feelings can be very subtle.
Anonymous S joined in and replied with this 8 months (2009-07-29 19:01:?? UTC) ago, 57 minutes later, 4 weeks past creation (#191,065):
Yes I guess you could say I got somewhat "horny" as a child. Played around with my neighbour under the sheets and so on.
But what you're trying to do is make that an excuse for having sex with a child. I don't think it's any antis' argumentation that children don't react to sexual stimulation, everybody knows they do.
But the fact that a naive child can feel good got nothing to do with why it is WRONG. The experiences children make on that field are with other children, and not done TO them by creepy old men. What stupid delusional mind would think that doesn't fuck a kid up?!
Having your sort of fantasy is one thing - one thing I can accept, as far as I know you can't do anything about it.
BUT justifying to put that into reality is something else, and you should be ashamed of yourself to work around logic like that. In NO REALITY will it EVER be OK for a grown man to RAPE a child, whether it fights it or not. Because that is just not the point. Children are children and not mature enough to make sexual decisions.
So wank off to CP if you want, but the pathetic bastards of your sort who really try to tell people that it's OK to DO it… boy I'd love to take a big knife and castrate you.
Anonymous L replied with this 8 months (2009-07-29 19:18:?? UTC) ago, 17 minutes later, 4 weeks past creation (#191,075):
@previous> I don't think it's any antis' argumentation that children don't react to sexual stimulation, everybody knows they do.Many antis say that children are incapable of feeling sexual stimulation as anything but torture. I think the only reason you don't say the same thing is because you actually did play sexual games as a child.
> But the fact that a naive child can feel good got nothing to do with why it is WRONG.You antis speak all the time about how
wrong it is for an adult to stimulate a child sexually. But you never actually can say
what is wrong about it. The pedophiles are not advocating
rape, they're advocating consensual, harmless activity. So what's your problem?
Anonymous S replied with this 8 months (2009-07-29 19:40:?? UTC) ago, 22 minutes later, 4 weeks past creation (#191,092):
@previous> But you never actually can say what is wrong about it.Because for everybody else but pedophiles (as it seems) that is just common sense, that is hard to put into words… I'll try though:
When a child that experienced this "consensual, harmless activity" hits puberty, it realises what sex is about.
It loses its innocence - which is in my opinion why that's the moment pedophiles stop being interested in them. And the moment that happens and they realise WHAT it was, what her daddy-compensation called their "secret games", they are stunned and shocked. They stop eating, take drugs and become seriously damaged people. Every psychologist can draw you pretty pictures of that.
So what I'm saying is: It may not harm them directly as long as they are children, but it ruins their chances to grow up and have a normal sexuality. You don't kill the child, but you kill the grown-up it would become.
And, before someone comes again with that crap: It has NOTHING to do with "how society influences the children to think they didn't want it". It is just the pure realisation of what sex is about, with all it's biological, emotional and psychological consequences. It's something that's pretty hard for everyone, being exposed to todays crazy media, but for victims of child abuse, it's nearly impossible.
Anonymous T joined in and replied with this 8 months (2009-07-30 06:36:?? UTC) ago, 11 hours later, 4 weeks past creation (#191,532):
@previousSo to paraphrase: Sex is evil, m'kay?
Anonymous U joined in and replied with this 8 months (2009-07-31 06:33:?? UTC) ago, 24 hours later, 4 weeks past creation (#192,527):
@191,092I think that's actually one of the only posts on this board that fully explains the faults behind adults taking advantage of children - whether it's claimed to be consensual or not.
Anonymous L replied with this 8 months (2009-07-31 11:01:?? UTC) ago, 4 hours later, 4 weeks past creation (#192,640):
@previousYou have got to be kidding. For all the wordiness of that post, it says nothing substantial about "why it's wrong for children to have sex". There's absolutely no basis to anything said there. It was well summarized by
@191,532 Anonymous V joined in and replied with this 8 months (2009-07-31 17:37:?? UTC) ago, 7 hours later, 4 weeks past creation (#192,772):
I must have been horny as a child, because I used to masturbate daily, sometimes several times a day. I started masturbating to orgasm (dry at first, of course) at age 5 or so by holding my fist against my (believe it or not) soft penis while I laid on my stomach fully clothed. I just wasn't aware that it was sexual until I was like 11 or 12. However, I learned quickly, after my mom seeing me rocking on the floor with my hand underneath me, that I was doing something bad. Now, I didn't agree with her because it felt so damn good. I would just do it when I knew she wouldn't be checking up on me. But from that time, anything to do with that area because associated with being "dirty" or "naughty". Now that I'm an adult, I can personally see how kids learn to associate sex with evil, and I really see why society is so hung up with it.
Let me make another point to some of the discussion that has popped up here. Like others that have posted here, I have certain attractions that I know society has issues with. But I realize I am a member of society, so unless I want to suffer society's consequences, I know I cannot ACT on my attraction. I will allow society that much. However, I refuse to let society dictate what to be attracted to and what not be attracted to, for that is very personal. Society is not allowed in my head. That is where I draw the line.
Anonymous L replied with this 8 months (2009-07-31 18:36:?? UTC) ago, 58 minutes later, 4 weeks past creation (#192,787):
@previousThank you for sharing your experiences! Like you, I also did not get erections at an early age (or they were limited) and I remember when I hit puberty, I felt like I couldn't get as much pleasure out of masturbation once I started getting erections. This likely was because I was accustomed to a different stimulation method which didn't work as well with an erection.
Yes, we are members of society as well. But to me that means we ought to have a voice, as full members of our society. I will not be having sex with little girls, but I shouldn't have to hide either.
Anonymous V replied with this 8 months (2009-07-31 19:57:?? UTC) ago, 1 hour later, 4 weeks past creation (#192,844):
@previous> Thank you for sharing your experiences! Like you, I also did not get erections at an early age (or they were limited) and I remember when I hit puberty, I felt like I couldn't get as much pleasure out of masturbation once I started getting erections. This likely was because I was accustomed to a different stimulation method which didn't work as well with an erection.This was my experience exactly. Once I started having erections, it was difficult to orgasm with my only known method, but I found a way. (In fact, I didn't change over to the widely recognized traditional method (stroking) until I was in my late teens and I was confined to a place where I couldn't lay down. Necessity is the mother of re-invention!) When I started getting erections, I was still having dry orgasms. Imagine my surprise the first time, after YEARS of masturbating to orgasm, when this strange cloudy liquid goo came out of my penis! (Needless to say, I was quite naive sexually by the time puberty hit. I had no idea that this would happen.)
>> Yes, we are members of society as well. But to me that means we ought to have a voice, as full members of our society. I will not be having sex with little girls, but I shouldn't have to hide either.I agree, and I really believe that the voice is growing. This sexual orientation is no different than any other. Some people like Coke, some people like Pepsi, and some like Mountain Dew. Neither are right or wrong, just different. I'm not advocating acting on the orientation, because acting on it is wrong. But I'm not going to let anyone tell me what I like or don't like is wrong.
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