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Topic: Which would you save: Ten random cute little girls or 10,000 random grown men?

Anonymous fbbc0b8ca2c7502b245daf826fe4f99e started this discussion 5 months (2008-06-29 14:25:56 UTC) ago:

You don't know any of the persons involved. The two parties are each in a chamber which will either have its door opened or be filled with toxic gas, depending on your choice. There is no way to save both or avoid having to make this decision.

Explain your choice.

Anonymous 3bb02839f4de10da40a477eed0046b69 replied with this 5 months (2008-06-29 14:27:15 UTC) ago, 1 minute later (#29,439):

What a crap question. Is this an end of the world thing, how old are the girls?

Anonymous b32fa42afd235348f4ef7e3d1ab0217e replied with this 5 months (2008-06-29 14:30:14 UTC) ago, 3 minutes later (#29,443):

i'd save the men. why? cos after, we'd go on the best pub crawl

Anonymous fbbc0b8ca2c7502b245daf826fe4f99e (OP) replied with this 5 months (2008-06-29 14:32:03 UTC) ago, 2 minutes later (#29,446):

> What a crap question.

Um… why?

> Is this an end of the world thing

No. Are you able to read?

> how old are the girls?

Eh… "little". Loli age.

Anonymous 5bd9080458fe6abbbeb693c18214619a replied with this 5 months (2008-06-29 14:34:55 UTC) ago, 3 minutes later (#29,449):

I'd save the cute little girls.

The world is filled with random grown men, and killing some of them wouldn't hurt, right? Plus, cute little girls make this world a happier and cuter place.

Anonymous ae26c1d56c5c49a6639a2504c0194ba0 replied with this 5 months (2008-06-29 14:37:52 UTC) ago, 3 minutes later (#29,450):

I would save the girls. The world has too many people on it. Don't need 10.000 people. 10 cute girls would be ok though :P

Anonymous 230619a1fc5a6de6bc6c8419a0b1b347 replied with this 5 months (2008-06-29 14:50:20 UTC) ago, 12 minutes later (#29,457):

The men. Its saving 99,990 more people. Anyone who doesn't is guilty of murdering 99,990 people in my books.

Anonymous f45d31e88628eefe33ab6755c8a7e867 replied with this 5 months (2008-06-29 15:13:21 UTC) ago, 23 minutes later (#29,461):

@29,449

> Plus, cute little girls make this world a happier and cuter place.

Most cute little girls grow up to become nasty self-indulgent, self-centered BITCHES sadly.

I for one would let both groups die. I would only ask one thing of the captors. I would ask that I would be the one to throw the switch, the action which resulted in all of their deaths. Now before you think of me as a horrible monster, give me a minute to explain. First, they are going to die anyway — if not by my hand, then by someone else's. Second, I was given the power of salvation for only one group — and instead, in an act of fairness and equality, I condemned them all. It is only fitting that as the one to sentence them all to death, that I as well be the one to carry it out.

Now before you ask, the answer is yes — I have been the subject of psychological study all of my life; as I was born of Highest Genius. A person with my level of intelligence is a rarity of only about one in every fifty million (1:50000000) persons. Needless to say, generally I will never follow a conventional path of wisdom when asked such a question.

The Voight-Kampff test:

* It’s your birthday. Someone gives you a calfskin wallet. How do you react?

* You’ve got a little boy. He shows you his butterfly collection plus the killing jar. What do you do?

* You’re watching television. Suddenly you realize there’s a wasp crawling on your arm.

* You’re in a desert walking along in the sand when all of the sudden you look down, and you see a tortoise, crawling toward you. You reach down, you flip the tortoise over on its back. The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over, but it can’t, not without your help. But you’re not helping. Why is that?

* Describe in single words, only the good things that come into your mind. About your mother.

Anonymous a3bc9b3373e72e322f32772a85fee8c7 replied with this 5 months (2008-06-29 15:16:43 UTC) ago, 3 minutes later (#29,462):

Ten cute little girls.

What the fuck do you think i would do.

Surrounded by thousands of hairy men? Gross dude, just gross.

Anonymous f0385a0a179ad49c9620313a71311bd7 replied with this 5 months (2008-06-29 15:30:48 UTC) ago, 14 minutes later (#29,468):

If no one would ever know, I would save neither and laugh. If the media found out, I would save the men and fake cry to tell people how much I wanted to save the girls but just couldn't because it was against my moral policy.

Anonymous f45d31e88628eefe33ab6755c8a7e867 replied with this 5 months (2008-06-29 16:11:24 UTC) ago, 41 minutes later (#29,485):

(Citing a deleted or non-existent reply.)

> Srsly. That's not a real test dude. Also it doesn't test for genius. It tests to see if you're a replicant.

These questions are amazing tho, and Bladerunner is definitely one of my all-time favorite movies. The tests used to define whether or not I was of Genius were (at age 9) the Stanford-Binet form LM, followed a few years later by the Cattell. I scored in the septuple nines (the 99.99999?th percentile). Sorry for not being more exact with the least significant digit. There simply aren't many of us, only 30 persons in the USA who rank within the septuple nines — thus I wish to retain my anonymity here.

I am surprised that you thought I mistook the fictional Voight-Kampff as an actual test of intelligence however. I only added the test questions for dramatic effect. Yes, I loves teh drama. ☺

Anonymous 211704ee7da06413ea3870441d57adb0 replied with this 5 months (2008-06-29 18:00:44 UTC) ago, 2 hours later (#29,501):

which choice would cause the least amount of suffering? killing ten random cute little girls. therefore, I'd save the random grown men. why anyone would rather kill 10,000 over 10 is beyond me.

Anonymous f45d31e88628eefe33ab6755c8a7e867 replied with this 5 months (2008-06-29 18:51:12 UTC) ago, 50 minutes later (#29,517):

@29,501

> which choice would cause the least amount of suffering? killing ten random cute little girls. therefore, I'd save the random grown men. why anyone would rather kill 10,000 over 10 is beyond me.

I would gladly kill 10,000 rather than 10 — and so would you! The requisite of course, that you are among the 10 being spared. ☺ Otherwise you would either be a realist (like me), or a brute.

How many of us would gladly trade 100,000 or even a million strangers to save our own worthless hides? I know I would. Fuck, I'd trade a billion people to save my own sorry life. At least I'm honest. ☺

Anonymous 4dcbf5e2bb8a0a2ad2106892f3770c86 replied with this 5 months (2008-06-29 18:58:07 UTC) ago, 7 minutes later (#29,518):

I would save the ten girls. We would survive off the ten thousand dead men with toxins in them, making us crazy radioactive superhumans by the time the girls grew up. Then I would fuck their big disgusting mutant tits all day long and die from a heart attack because at this point I'm an old piece of shit.

God my fantasies suck.

Anonymous f5eb367191eab131d57e8e0b529e444b replied with this 5 months (2008-06-29 20:58:11 UTC) ago, 2 hours later (#29,540):

@29,457

There are actually 10,000 men in there, not 99,990.

I'd save the men because wow i saved 10 lolis? now what they go home? who cares
those men would owe it to me for life.

Anonymous 7c2cefb1e62dd3217babbcb170c80c0b replied with this 5 months (2008-06-29 22:44:01 UTC) ago, 2 hours later (#29,557):

The lolis, because it is double-positive. Ten more lolis than otherwise = a slightly better world. Ten thousand less random men = also, a slightly better world. Not much of a choice in my opinion.

Anonymous 794ea531d4a7e4a8a412ec3987deadc1 replied with this 5 months (2008-06-30 06:20:33 UTC) ago, 8 hours later (#29,638):

My answer depends on the circumstances. I know there are more possibilities, but here is my answer to a few:

* Last people on earth (me + 10,000 men OR me + 10 girls)
The girls. The species must live on.

* No special circumstances.
The men. More of them than the girls, therefore more lives saved. Many outweight the few for me. I try to value human life equally, so 10,000 > 10, since 1 = 1. If it were a question of 10,000 girls vs. 10,000 boys, then I would have to break that rule somehow and evaluate on other criteria.

* For every person I save, I must spend a day in some sort of prison.
I would like to think I would still pick the men. It would suck for me (perhaps be fatal depending on what kind of conditions the prisons had), but it would benefit a larger group and serve a greater purpose. Plus I might be able to guilt some of those men into doing favors for me.

Anonymous 211704ee7da06413ea3870441d57adb0 replied with this 5 months (2008-06-30 18:43:18 UTC) ago, 12 hours later (#29,730):

@29,517

well of course! I'm not suicidal…

Anonymous 0b7b4a0505977fb5da3831a96726bdda replied with this 5 months (2008-06-30 21:46:02 UTC) ago, 3 hours later (#29,754):

i would save the 10,000 men then we'd all fuck the 10 dead loli's the i'd kill the men

Anonymous 3556dec978ca6ac8374babfafd8b1b77 replied with this 5 months (2008-07-03 11:28:34 UTC) ago, 3 days later (#30,236):

the girls.

they still have their innocence. there is still hope for them.

Anonymous e657633d01a0d182bff30711eb661256 replied with this 5 months (2008-07-03 11:52:37 UTC) ago, 24 minutes later (#30,241):

neither. kill them all. oh, wait, I'm being forced to save one?

whichever door is easiest to reach from where I'm standing.

Anonymous 6216eb22596365eadeb06bddd1587914 replied with this 5 months (2008-07-04 02:18:28 UTC) ago, 14 hours later (#30,335):

That’s a no-brainer. The men of course.

/not a pedophile
//gay

Anonymous 8d14f3710e9bad2b2be4f671255f6a2a replied with this 5 months (2008-07-04 22:13:21 UTC) ago, 20 hours later (#30,466):

The men. 10000 people that owe me big time.

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